The "gather step" has bastardized basketball, amirite?

I'm not into sports at all honestly, but every time I see basketball highlights, I always think "Isn't that traveling"! They take like 3 steps before shooting

by anna05 1 week ago

Yes, you're allowed a gather and two steps... So three is what they do every play. Why would you take less when three is allowed?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Just said I'm not into sports, just saw this on my home page, and when I played in school 2 steps was the max? Sorry my knowledge wasn't up to speed for you?

by anna05 1 week ago

I challenge you to go pick 3 random highlights right now and see if there is a possible travel happening.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Is there a way to view "random highlights?" Because that would be pretty cool. Don't think it's possible though.

by Appropriate-Fold5766 1 week ago

Just go to espn or NBA.com, first three clips you see, gentleman's wager that traveling is not an issue in any of the three.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It is still cut and dry old heads and casual fans are just in denial about the rules

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Nah, we know the rules. Refs let too much go these days. Used to be you couldn't have the ball parallel to your hand or it was traveling.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You are all proving my point. There is no debate among people that actually watch basketball. Just casuals and people that haven't watched in decades that feel the need to have their decade old understanding of the rules validated. Sorry to break it to you but times have changed old man. It's legal now. Harden made sure we'll never go back either.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Enjoy your traveling show then.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Which one? Is it the first, second, third, or fourth gather that upsets you.

by Most-Mammoth 1 week ago

I still can't get used to it. Every time I watch a game somebody takes that fourth step and my response is to call it a travel. Some players pick up the ball close to the 3-point line and walk straight to the basket!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's not just you being an old head. They never care about traveling or double dribbling anymore and it sucks.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The amount of carrying annoys me way more. So many young guys basically cup the ball in their hands while theyre dribbling. I dont see a ton of gather steps to be honest but as a good defender even when people do try to pull it off good horizontal movement negates it against basically every player.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I'm more accepting of that. It can get out of hand, but it's such a grey rule as it is. Counting 2 steps should be simple

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I'm around the same age as you, even played some college basketball (not to an extent worth bragging about or anything). I grew up loving the NBA and watching guards who I would try to incorporate into my game: Iverson, Payton, Nash mostly. I still try to play once a week as means of getting a good cardio workout and as a way to hang with my buddies. But man, I have zero intererst in NBA basketball anymore. Growing up it was my absolute #1 no questions asked; now it is considerably behind NFL, College Football, NHL, and College Basketball in terms of my interest.

by Leading-Flamingo-24 1 week ago

I like the nba still. It's entertainment and the skill and athleticism really is amazing

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I definitely agree with the skill and athleticism being better than ever. But there was just a certain something that I used to love about it that I don't feel anymore. I think it was the level of hate and animosity amongst a variety of characters, such as: Rodman, Mason, Oakley, Chuck, Maxwell, McDaniel, Payton. They just all seemed more badass before.

by Leading-Flamingo-24 1 week ago

Just cut out dribbling completely, let's turn it into rugby with hoops.

by Cali00 1 week ago

Take it one step further and let them fly around on broomsticks

by hilma57 1 week ago

They have that, it's called Rugball and it's insane.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Haha I like the euro step. Just pull it off in 2 steps and it's more impressive.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Well the euro step is still a 2 step but with a sideway hop.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

More entertainment than sport now. But that's understandable. It's a product.

by Tatyanaparker 1 week ago

Do you like James Harden stepback three?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

No but it's not his fault. He's just using the rules to his advantage, and sometimes they could still call it on him if they wanted to

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah funnily enough most people realize that it's ridiculous. I remember back then Curry tried to do the same and get called and he's laughing his ass off. In the following week Harden also gets called and I think nobody does it now. Which is weird because it's basically the same as what they do on layup or dunk. Gather step into 2 steps. The stepback just looks more ridiculous and uncool which is why they called it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Watching good defense force a travel is great. You also have freaks like Giannis able to traverse the free throw line with a eurostep. I definitely want more rules in place to empower the defense. At least it's not 2022 where players could just run into the defense and draw a foul.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree that the gather step has gotten out of control. See Giannis three and four step euros. Even worse, IMO, is that defenders are no longer allowed legal guarding position in the NBA. Defenders can be in position the offensive player initiates contact, and it's always a foul on the defender.

by Weary-March5070 1 week ago

In their defense they've acknowledged that and are trying to change it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Nothing has changed with that for sooo freaking long.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah, once the James Harden style of offense (and defense) became the norm, I checked out.

by Ulices88 1 week ago

The NBA has been unwatchable for years.

by Jacobscory 1 week ago

What about carrying it over

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This needs to be a popular opinion

by Qlegros 1 week ago

allow a player lift their pivot foot for a "step through" as long as they're shoot it right after. Sorry OP, but this has never been against the rules. Lifting your pivot foot was never a travel, and anyone who ever says it is a travel doesn't know ball.

by Key_Inspection 1 week ago

Facts. Go watch Jalen Brunson highlights if you need a lesson on footwork. Step through does not equal travel.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's odd they don't call traveling. They call every damn thing else.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

All teams have offensive players, and so the rule changes equally affect all teams. There has been a discussion about the ridiculous level of offense this season, and perhaps that will prompt the NBA to make further tweaks.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

When I played, you couldn't pick up your pivot foot unless you were shooting. You couldn't take more than one step unless you were shooting. Some of the stuff they get away with now is ridiculous.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

For me it's all the defensive foul calls. If a team actually plays defense, the game becomes a free throw competition.

by Metzkeara 1 week ago

I absolutely agree. I'm close to your age, so maybe that's a factor, but it is just so obvious, it seems wrong. One of the pivotal (in my opinion) rules of the game just gets ignored. That's why, aside from playoffs, I prefer European basketball.

by Brilliant-Count 1 week ago