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People who stereotype are lazy thinkers, amirite?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
The problem is when you see the same stereotypes popping up across cultures, geography, languages, centuries etc. At that point it's basically undeniable that the stereotype is rooted in a bit of truth.
by Entire-Tadpole-78071 week ago
No. If it was grounded in truth, you could prove it with facts. Anecdotes aren't truth, stories aren't data
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
They also generally can be proven with facts. Stereotype is typically applied as a pejorative by people whose sensibilities are offended by the ugly truth.
by Entire-Tadpole-78071 week ago
Maybe you could prove your claims?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
OK, choose a stereotype for me to defend.
by Entire-Tadpole-78071 week ago
Nope. Burden of proof Your claim, your job to prove it
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
It's a stereotype that Japanese people have small penises. From studies into this, this is statistically observable.
by Sea-Battle1 week ago
Lol thanks for taking one for the team.
by Entire-Tadpole-78071 week ago
At least he tried.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Cite it and saying a group has a genetic disposition that you can prove isn't a stereotype it's a fact. I assume you aren't saying all stereotypes are provable right?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
I'm on mobile, but search "penis length by country" into Google scholar. You'll find plenty, as well as self reported data collected online that find the same outcome. I don't get what your point is though. Are you saying a stereotype is only a stereotype if it can't be supported by evidence? I don't think this is a definition that anyone else would use. Why don't you share an example of what you think a stereotype is?
by Sea-Battle1 week ago
I am saying that a stereotype is a claim based on anecdotal information
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Claiming they can generally be defended with facts is a claim? No?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
What part about "generally" makes you think "specific"? Nincompoop!
by Entire-Tadpole-78071 week ago
Ha. Prove a claim? You won't even try
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
This is objectively wrong lol
by Western-Wealth1 week ago
Proof? Again. Nothing offered
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Stereotypes emerge from collective experiences. Although each experience is different, theres a reason they emerged. The Stern German, the Fighting Irish, the Rude French, the Loud Latinos, etc. Its a general experience. No one ever says all french/german/irish are that way, but its a general experience. And yes, there is validity in them, as proven by the fact that the actual stereotype emerged. Stereotypes cant survive without some level of truth otherwise it couldnt have emerged. I used to be like you, dont stereotype etc but as time goes on you see within each demographic, be it teens, be it ppl from wherever, ppl of whatever age and gender, there are certain "inconsistent consistencies", you start to see patterns in all demographics.
by Dee031 week ago
General experience? How many people do you need to know in a group to lump them together Do you dispute that you know far less than 1% of those groups.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
I have met a lot of demographics over my lifetime and yes, there are many congruent behaviour patterns. When scientists or ppl conducting research or conducting studies, should they get results from all 8 billion of us to get a good assessment?
by Dee031 week ago
You know less than 1% of each of those groups, let's try again Do you dispute that?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
I answered you with an analogy. Dont get your panties in a twist.
by Dee031 week ago
So we agree So using that logic how does knowing less than 1% of a group entitle you or anyone to lump them together based on anecdotes and general experience
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Do you research crime stats in Aspen then? Or Rio?
by Dee031 week ago
Your specific example is very different than your stereotype based on general experience I think your argument isn't as good as you think.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Democrats vs republicans, boomers vs gen z Easy everyday examples
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
A lot of stereotypes are rooted in truth. Sure at the end of the day they are exaggerated generalizations, but there is a reason why that generalization is being made in the first place.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yes, in my opinion it's because people are too lazy to think critically or they want to dehumanize a group by ignoring them as individuals My opinion can't really prove it.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
It's inherently lazy
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
I respectfully disagree. It's more like it's reflexive. When we see someone before talking to them, we form an opinion about them without realizing it based on their appearance. That's stereotyping.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's the laziness I don't think everyone does that. I think some people react to the person as an individual
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Everyone does do it. They might not realize they are doing it, they might not be doing it intentionally or consciously, but it still happens. And that's ok.
by Anonymous1 week ago
In your unsupported opinion sure, Can you prove it
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Do they say we all do it. You can cite that part
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
The problem is, when confronted with data, you will continue to deny them
by HumanIndependence1 week ago
Some people do for sure.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
I completely agree.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Isn't that the primary criticism of stereotyping?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't know. It's one of mine and I think it's unpopular so it fits. I don't try to speak for others
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
It's not unpopular. It's very popular. It's taught in school.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I agree and violated continuously Think of all the boomer and gen Z critiques as some easy examples
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
That's a stereotype but it does seem to be pervasive
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Hahaha you got me there๐
by Anonymous1 week ago
Everyone uses stereotypes at one point or another, especially when you don't know the person. If the only thing you have to go by is the way the person looks, you're going to base your opinion of them on the way they look. Now if you are a reasonable person, your opinion will change as you gain more information about them. But you have to base your opinion on the information that you have.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I disagree I don't use them. People are individuals first. Period,
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
People make their assessment of other people based on the information that they have. If the only information you have is the way someone looks, then that is going to be how you are going to assess that person. That's a fact.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's not enough information to judge anyone
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
And yet everyone does it. If you see someone on the street with long greasy hair tattered clothes and living in a box, you are going to judge that person differently than if you see a mother and three kids, or a guy in a business suit. That's simply the truth. You can deny it, but it's true.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think you are trying to stereotype me. It's ok, you do it. Because you do it, it doesn't mean everyone does it
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Deny all you want. I guarantee that if you saw a person with long greasy hair tattered clothes and living in a box. You are going to assess that person differently than if you saw a middle-aged woman with three kids, or a businessman in a suit, or an old couple. Those are the facts. Deny all you want.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Luckily some people don't live in a world where they judge others based on looks You really can't fathom that?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Deny all you want. I guarantee that you will assess those people differently. You are the one in denial.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I can't fathom the ignorance to see a better way, not be able to refute it, and the use a stereotype to make myself feel better about doing it
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Nah. Stereotypes always come from exposure to a demographic. They aren't true all the time, of course, but stereotypes aren't lazy. It's the result of first hand experience by many people that later is taught to people, which is why stereotypes are dangerous. It's the teaching of stereotypes that is the most damaging. Hard to tell some young Asian woman in college who is constantly sexually harassed by black men (something that happened to a friend of mine) that she shouldn't stereotype black men (which she did... By avoiding them). But teaching her kids or friends this stereotype can be super harmful, when others might not have the same experience. Anyway, it's complicated. Not lazy.
by zturner1 week ago
They always come? That's your opinion right? Your strawman examples are pretty funny to. Using that example would that mean all black men sexually harass people?
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Woosh. Looks like you missed my point entirely. A person creating personal stereotypes is totally natural based on personal experiences. Teaching those stereotypes to others is where the damage comes. Hope that makes it more clear for you.
by zturner1 week ago
I agree that that is your opinion. I think you missed my response That's your opinion, it doesn't make it true. My opinions don't make my claims true either. We can agree to disagree
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Sigh. Good luck in life.
by zturner1 week ago
Sorry if my claim disarmed you. I am happy not using stereotypes and confirmation bias, I don't think they are really defendable
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Brah... Good luck in life.
by zturner1 week ago
Ironically I am fine. Think of all the things and people you miss out on with your lazy stereotypes
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
If the only thing you have to judge a person by is the way they look, that is what you are going to use. That is a stereotype. That is a fact.
by Anonymous1 week ago
If that's all you have, you dont have enough information to judge them
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Stereotypes exist because they are real.
by Anonymous1 week ago
All of them? Or any specific examples.
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Come on now You said they are real which ones
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Truth his based on empirical evidence? Your opinion might be Truth is based on facts
by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
Read my last sentence, because your literally proving my point.
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The gypsycrusader has a riddle for you
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by Rutherfordmerl1 week ago
No you have to look it up because I'll get the ban hammer. (he's a right extremist streamer that got jail time, i want to make it very clear that I'm making fun of him, not advocating his message)
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